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New York City Bans Styrofoam
New York City’s ban on Styrofoam products in food service establishments, stores and manufacturers went into effect July 1.
Products such as trays, cups, plates, clamshell containers and even packing peanuts cannot be used within the five boroughs.
Yay New York City! May others follow.
Styrofoam food service ware leaches toxic styrene into foods and beverages. Studies have determined that all humans have styrene in their blood.
Cotton Window Shades
Question from Melissa Mazer
Hi Debra,
I am having a hard time finding cotton window shades (I would prefer not to have anything made custom for a child’s room). I have found cotton roman shades with a polyester backing. These are not a cotton/polyester blend, but, rather two separate layers of fabric. Would you be comfortable with something like this, or will I still have off-gassing from the polyester layer?
Thank you very much for your help!
Debra’s Answer
The problem with polyester is not the polyester itself, but rather the finishes that are commonly applied to them.
Find out if any finishes are used. If not, there shouldn’t be any significant outgassing. Personally though, I would be more comfortable with a 100% cotton shade.
Sleeptek Mattresses
Question from Melissa Mazer
Hi Debra,
Thank you for your wonderful site! I am in the process of decorating my daughter’s bedroom.
What do you think of this mattress? (the Sleeptek Classic 1000). www.sleeptek.ca/products/classic-1000
I have seen others at the same price-point that are Greenguard certified (this one is not), but those others contain latex, which I am trying to avoid. I was wondering if you were familiar with sleeptek and would be comfortable with this mattress.
Debra’s Answer
This mattress looks good to me. I haven’t listed it on Debra’s List Beds Page because it’s in Canada and my policy is to list only USA websites, unless there is a site where the products are so unique they are not available in the USA.
I would be comfortable with this mattress.
Breathable Crib Mattresses
Question from Susan Quigley
Hi Debra,
What do you think about these “breathable” crib mattresses?
Is this something I really need to be concerned about?
Debra’s Answer
The thinking behind “breathable” mattresses is concern about risk of suffocation when the baby is lying face down. Years ago there were baby mattresses constructed in ways that were so flimsy that perhaps a baby could sink into the mattress face down and potentially suffocate. But today that’s not an issue, and certainly not with the better mattresses. The Consumer Product Safety Commission advises that all baby mattresses be firm and flat. When a mattress is firm and flat, it’s impossible for a baby to go head down into the mattress.
But there is certainly nothing wrong with providing extra air surrounding a baby, provided it’s done in a safe and responsible manner.
The problem I have with “breathable” mattresses is they allow the baby to breathe through the mattress cover and into the interior of the mattress, forcing the baby to breathe stale air that has been sitting inside the mattress. If baby has had an accident or milk has been spilled, and, for example, urine vapor has entered the interior of the mattress, then bacteria and mold would be inside the mattress, and the baby would breathe it.
One breathable mattress is constructed so you can wash it. However, this takes up to 6 hours to properly wash and dry the mattress completely, and meanwhile baby is without a mattress. Yes, it’s washable, but if I were a busy mom, I’m not sure I would want to be repeatedly taking the mattress apart and washing it and reassembling it. I’m just not willing to do that kind of maintenance.
And if any toxic chemicals were used in the construction of the mattress, baby would be breathing these as well.
Lullaby Earth (and Naturepedic) have a different solution. They offer a separate “air flow” pad that can be placed on top of a mattress, just like you would use a typical mattress pad. This pad provides fresh air from the room for baby to breathe. The baby doesn’t have to breathe into the inside of the mattress. The parents don’t have to disassemble the mattress and wash it by hand. Instead, the airflow layer can be removed at any time to be washed and dried in a washing machine, while baby still has his mattress available. This pad can be added to any crib mattress for an extra layer of breatheability. You can order the air-flow cover separately or on their lightweight crib mattress in white and four different colors at Lullaby Earth Breeze Crib Mattress.
Storage Facilities
Question from Susan Lander
Hi Debra,
Thank you for all you do.
I’m planning to move from NYC to Florida (West Palm Beach) and will need to put my belongings in storage for 6 months. I’m really apprehensive about how to protect my new White Lotus bed, part-soy sofa and all of my pristine books and other belongings if I put them in a storage unit. I have severe MCS and mold allergies, not to mention I’m sure they spray pesticides in these places. Or am I better off selling everything and starting over (very expensive and new item issues)?? What would you do?
Thanks!
Debra’s Answer
I have some experience with this.
- if they spray pesticides
- what the pesticide is
- how frequently they spray
- where they spray (some spray only around the outside of the units and not inside them)
When I put my things in storage, I put everything in big polyethylene bags, not garbage bags, but like big sandwich bags with ziplocks and handles. This is more airtight than putting things in cardboard boxes. And you can easily see what is in the bag. I had no problems with this. All my blankets and towels and everything came out perfectly after storage.
For the bed, I suggest wrapping it in Reflectix, which is aluminum foil sandwiched between layers of polyethylene plastic. Seal it with aluminum foil tape to be air tight. Nothing will get through this.
Be sure to tape the wrap with aluminum tape to make it airtight.
Toxic Drugs and Your Mental Health Rights
My guest today is Laurie Anspach, Director of Mental Health Rights. Laurie has spent 20 years as a mental health advocate in Florida, working side-by-side with legal and medical professionals to assist individuals in protecting their mental health rights. Well be talking about how individuals—particularly children and the elderly—are often given toxic drugs for mental health conditions that can be handled without them, and the rights we have to refuse such drugs. Laurie says, “Having helped people over such a long span of time, it is clear that when an individual gets full information of the facts, and specifically in regards to their situation, they are able to assert their rights.” www.mentalhealthrights.org
TOXIC FREE TALK RADIO
Toxic Drugs and Your Mental Health Rights
Host: Debra Lynn Dadd
Guest: Laurie Anspach
Date of Broadcast: July 09, 2015
DEBRA: Hi. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio where we talk about how to thrive in a toxic world and live toxic free. It’s Thursday, July 9th, 2015 and I’m here in a beautiful sunny day in Clearwater, Florida.
Today, we’re going to talk about our rights. This is something I’ve been wanting to talk about for a long time actually because we do have basic human rights and I think that one of them is the right to be healthy and happy and not have our health harmed by things. Let’s see. Health, happiness and – I’m trying to remember the opening of one of our famous American documents. I’ll think of it. I’ll look it up during the break.
Anyway, “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” That’s it – Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Life, to be alive and to not be sick and to be able to function in life and pursue what you want to do and not be harmed by things around you, is one of our basic human rights.
Today, we’re going to talk about it in the realm of mental health. I’m going to let my guest explain this, but just to be brief about it. Many people in the world today are being given mental health – I don’t even want to say mental health because that doesn’t seem right. I think you got what I’m saying.
Anyway, many people are being given drugs to control their mental state, not understanding what these drugs can do. We have rights. We do have rights to not be given those drugs. We’re going to talk more about that. For me, I consider mental drugs to be toxic chemicals. So it’s just like being exposed to any other toxic thing that would affect your mental state and many toxic chemicals do.
So we’re just going to talk about these drugs. We’re going to talk about our rights to not take them. We’re going to talk about what’s going on in the world about people being forced to take them. For me, that’s much in the same way that we’re being forced to take toxic products. We’re being forced to use toxic products because we don’t have alternatives although there are many alternatives. They’re on the market. They’re polluting the environment. They’re polluting places.
We have rights and that’s what we’re going to talk about today.
My guest is Laurie Anspach. She’s the Director of Mental Health Rights. She has spent 20 years as a mental health advocate in Florida, working side-by-side with legal and medical professionals to assist individuals in protecting their mental health rights. Her website is MentalHealthRights.org.
Hi, Laurie. Hello. Are you there? Hello, Laurie? Well, I’m not hearing Laurie. Let’s see. I just have to talk to the station for a second. Oh, I’m getting a message from the station. Okay. She’s being called back and we’ll have her just in a second.
So anyway, what can I say until she gets back? Mental health rights. So there are more things about Laurie. We’ll be talking about how individuals, particularly children and elderly, are often given toxic drugs for mental health conditions that can be handled without them and the rights we have to refuse such drugs.
Laurie says having healthy people over such a long span of time, it is clear that when individuals get full information of the facts and specifically in regards to their situation, they are able to assert their rights. That’s what she does.
Do we have Laurie on the line?
LAURIE ANSPACH: Hi Debra. How are you today?
DEBRA: I am fine. How are you?
LAURIE ANSPACH: Great. Thank you for having me on your show. I’m really honored.
DEBRA: Thank you. Laurie, I gave a little introduction. I’m not sure if you heard it because we were disconnected there. But why don’t you just go ahead and explain what’s going on in the world today with regards to mental health that requires you to be an advocate?
LAURIE ANSPACH: Absolutely I’d love to. There are different categories of people out in the world that there are those that run into problems with their mental health, behavior health, learning, educational learning problems area. And there are those that don’t run into it.
I can tell you, Debra in 20 years, it’s rare that I ran into an individual who hasn’t had some difficulty in asserting their rights or their position or their decision in regards to their own mental health, their child’s behavior health, in regards to learning difficulty in the school area. I can give examples of that, but just to let you know how rare it is that I ran into people that aren’t familiar with this to some degree.
Over the years, myself and many volunteers in the nonprofits I’ve been involved in, we’ve been out in community events, making known our nonprofit and our advocacy services. I can tell you one for one for one, typically 99% of the people that we would meet in a five hour period, which is anywhere from 500 to 1000 people – 99% of those people have a story to tell.
And essentially, all we do as advocates is provide the information that’s accessible to anyone but rarely given by the mental health or the medical community. That relates back to having full information. And it’s very much aligned with what you do as an advocate for toxic-free life.
DEBRA: Give us some examples for people who haven’t had an experience with this or people who have. Just give us some ideas and a couple of examples of this where people are running into a problem and they need your help.
LAURIE ANSPACH: For sure. The way that I got involved actually was I was running an art school here in Florida. Many parents who would bring their children into my school would apologize ahead of time for their child and let me know that the child was diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder or some other disorder and that they may not be able to learn in a class environment.
I had just moved here from New York and I was unfamiliar with these types of labels. I started to do some research at the library. This was long before the internet. I found that there were different diagnoses that were being handed out for children in the school environment.
One thing led to another and I ended up becoming an advocate because what I found was for example, most parents do not know that they have the right to decline the mental health medication. They don’t know that they have the right to report a school teacher, a school principal or any school personnel for pushing them to put their kid on ADHD medication.
DEBRA: I just need you to back up from there because I don’t have children and I’ve heard preferably about these kinds of things. But would you just give us more details about what is going on in the schools? How are these children being forced to be taking these drugs?
LAURIE ANSPACH: There are many factors in anyone that follows the educational arena in terms of how the schools are rating, the pressure to get the kids through the test and to have the school rate well in terms of how the kids are coming out in terms of their grade point average, their grades, their testing scores.
We’ll put an average of 25 to 30 students in a class. If a number of those students fail these tests or not doing well, it reflects poorly on the teacher and their job is at risk. Over the decades – this started to occur in the late 60s, early 70s, but it has now escalated to a point where a child, if they are not “keeping up” with the rest of the class, they will be again “offered” special education services.
Now with that recommendation or that offer comes testing. And the testing is supposed to focus on the child’s learning ability.
DEBRA: Laurie, I need to just interrupt you for a minute because we need to go to break. When we come back, we’ll hear more about this.
LAURIE ANSPACH: Okay, great.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Laurie Anspach. She’s the Director of Mental Health Rights at MentalHealthRights.org. We’re talking about our rights to not be exposed to toxic things today. We’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Laurie Anspach. She’s the Director of Mental Health Rights. The website is MentalHealthRights.org.
We’re talking about our mental health rights to not be given drugs against our will I guess is the way to say it. So Laurie, you were telling us about what happens in schools. So would you continue with that?
LAURIE ANSPACH: Absolutely. So if a child is placed in special education or even if they’re not offered a place in special education and if the teacher suggests to the parent, “Your child has ADHD. You need to take them to the doctor,” the parent is not obligated to do so. But unfortunately Debra, most parents don’t know that and they do take the suggestion. They take their child to the doctor. The doctor then diagnoses them with ADHD and prescribe the ADHD med, which carry very severe FDA warnings of heart risks, suicidal ideation, sudden death, cardiac arrest, just to name a few.
I’ve dealt with a lot of parents that didn’t know that there was a special law, a Florida law that prohibits school personnel from forcing them or coercing to medicate their child as a requisite to going to school. But we have parents that most often, the father and the mother, work and they need to keep their jobs and the kids need to go to school. So if the parent thinks that that ability to go to school is being threatened, they will automatically comply and go to the doctor.
Unfortunately again, they’re not given full information about the risks of mental health drugs nor are they given information about the alternatives. But most importantly and the crust of the issue or the problem is there are no medical tests to evidence in mental health diagnosis a learning disorder. They don’t use brain scans or chemical imbalance test, blood test to evidence what they then use as a diagnosis to prescribe the med.
DEBRA: So basically it sounds like you’re saying that a teacher or some official at the school can decide based on their observation I guess that a child has this condition. And then the teacher can tell the parent to go to the doctor and get these drugs. And the doctor just listens to the teacher?
LAURIE ANSPACH: The teachers have – yeah, go ahead.
DEBRA: If the parent comes in and says, “My child’s teacher said that I need to come to the doctor and that this child needs this drug,” then the doctor just says, “Okay. I’m going to give it to them.” So the doctor doesn’t give any medical test? The doctor has no diagnosis?
LAURIE ANSPACH: There’s no medical test ever because they don’t exist. Even the mental health community admits there is no medical test to evidence. The diagnoses are based upon the symptoms. So if the teacher shares her observations that the child is not sitting still, he doesn’t focus, he’s moving around, he’s fidgeting, that teacher-based observation goes to the pediatrician, the therapist and then it becomes a strong recommendation to the pediatrician or the psychiatrist to then prescribe the med.
The physicians themselves are adhering to this mainstream thought process of “Yeah, prescribe the med.” I know this firsthand because I do cold calling out to physicians across the state and sometimes out of the state. It’s a rare moment that I actually speak with a physician who will not quickly and immediately and firstly opt for the mental health med.
DEBRA: That’s what doctors do. That’s what they’re trained to do.
LAURIE ANSPACH: That’s what they’re trained to do. We are fortunate that there are medical professionals and there have been since the 1960s who are experts in the area of learning disorders, mental health symptoms and behavior health symptoms. And they can and will perform medical tests to evidence what potential underlying physical situation may be existing that would cause the child to not sit still, to not be able to focus, to fidget.
These same medical tests can be performed to help anyone who is experiencing life stresses or, as you cover in all your very good works, the stresses of toxic foods, toxic environments, nutritional deficiencies, food allergies, hormone problems, thyroid problems. All these things can be tested for no matter what individual, a child or an adult or a senior citizen.
And then when the physical situation is evident, they can use traditional medicine to help the person heal their body as opposed to putting toxic mental health drugs that carry severe warnings on them.
It’s a vested interest when you look at the fact that again these are voted into existence by physicians, psychiatrists who – a University of Massachusetts study showed that the majority of those physicians have financial ties to pharmaceutical companies. It’s a simple formula to follow the money.
DEBRA: Yeah. But as I said before, this is what doctors are trained to do. They’re trained to look at the patient and see what drug they should prescribe. That’s why you go to the doctors, to get drugs.LAURIE ANSPACH: Exactly. It’s a pharma world.
DEBRA: Yeah.
LAURIE ANSPACH: What we try to do as advocates is fill in the missing pieces. For example, back to the child in the school, when a parent is made aware either beforehand, during this type of situation or even afterward that there is a Florida and federal statutes that prohibit the school personnel from coercing to medicate their child, they can then make the decision not to medicate their child. They have the right. That’s the parental right.
Unfortunately, many of the hotline calls that I’ve taken over the years are from parents who did not know that there were those statutes in existence. They did not know the FDA warnings on the med. And they call after the fact when the adverse effects are taking place and their child is not doing well or has passed away.
There’s nothing more tragic than speaking to a parent whose child has passed away because of the FDA adverse effects of these drugs. So it’s a driving force for myself and advocates like myself to really get out to many parents and many individuals because I can give you examples of adults, but also senior citizens and the situations that they get involved in.
DEBRA: We need to go to break now. When we come back, I’d like for us to talk about senior citizens because I know that there are a lot of elderly people who are in rest homes or even at home who are being given high doses of drugs by their doctors for their family. We will talk about this when we come back.
You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. We’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Laurie Anspach. She’s the Director of Mental Health Rights and that’s at MentalHealthRights.org.
And you can also go to ToxicFreeTalkRadio.com and learn all about the past guests. You can listen to all the shows. We have more than 200 shows in archives and all about things having to do with living in a less toxic way or being more aware of toxic issues.
So Laurie, we talked before about children and schools. But tell us about a typical situation with a senior citizen and where this might come up.
LAURIE ANSPACH: Most definitely. As I mentioned there, in Florida, we have a large majority of senior citizens here. It’s a great place to retire. And unfortunately, it’s also a great place to scoop up the elderly and put them into the mental health arena. It’s a terrible way to say it, but I’ve taken many, many, many calls from adults, children and also the elders themselves.
What typically happens Debra is that if an elder is living on their own or perhaps their spouse just passed and they were married forever, more than 50 years, they’re sad like real life grief and real life stress. And they’re visiting their physicians for whatever physical element they might have.
And they express the fact that they are sad or they might as well not continue with life or whatever expression that was used to be used before what’s going on now in terms of mental health. That will get interpreted that the elder person is unable to care for themselves, is potentially a risk to themselves and many times the elder will be involuntarily committed. In the State of Florida, that’s called the Baker Act.
Now because there aren’t typically family members close by, this all happens without the family knowing. The elder gets placed into mental health facility, gets placed under mental health drugs. Typically with forcing your citizens, what is used is a class of drugs called antipsychotics. The FDA placed a special warning on the antipsychotics for the elderly of increased mortality. In addition to that, there’s a black box warning of [inaudible 00:29:24] here.
Once something like this, this [inaudible 00:29:28] or this motion starts to happen, the elder is then reviewed for her or his ability to function in life. And often, [inaudible 00:29:41] incapacitated and unable to either take care of their own affairs or a segment of their affairs, whether that would be their financial, their property and their health. It’s an open door for the elder to start losing control over their life and what’s going on.
So it’s unfortunate, but it’s beneficial if elders, adults and children get this information ahead of time that we’re talking about. There are no medical tests to the mental health diagnoses. Life does have stresses. There are medical professionals that can test for underlying physical causes. Seniors often do have medical problems to start with, but the same traditional medical professionals can work with them to help them get through the stressful time such as the loss of a loved one without having to go into the mental health arena especially if that entails an involuntary commitment or the mental health med.
Most of the time, when I review medical records from senior citizens to find them on multiple mental health meds and up to as many as 15 of them. This has to do with no oversight and again lack of informed [consent?].
I always encourage families to stay connected to their elder and to really think about what they want to do in terms of power of attorney should the elders start experiencing some signs of dementia or a physical disability that makes it harder for them to get around. There are different things that they can consider doing that will help protect their elder family member and there are a few fantastic attorneys in the State of Florida that will help put in place the legal paperwork to make sure that that is never a challenge.
DEBRA: I’m just stunned. Stunned maybe isn’t the right word, but you don’t think that these things happen. You just go along in your normal life and you often don’t know that these things are going on in the world.
One thing that I wanted to mention listening to all this – I’ve talked about this on the show before, but I think it [inaudible 00:32:13] repeating here. I have a situation in my life where early in my life, I took a thyroid medication called Synthroid, which is a thyroid hormone, but it’s synthetic and it’s a prescription. My brother was also given that.
I decided that I was going to get off of it and not take it because it gave me side effects and I started taking Armour Thyroid, which is a natural product. My brother stayed on it and ended up in the mental ward of a hospital.
What happens is Synthroid can give you psychiatric symptoms and the antidote for them is to just give you psychiatric drugs. And that started him on being addicted to mental health drugs for the rest of his life until he died at age 58, which is very young I consider. He was just addicted to those drugs and nobody ever got him off of them.
LAURIE ANSPACH: I’m so sorry to hear that, Debra. It’s most relevant to what we’re talking about because that’s exactly the path that many individuals go on because many of these mental health drugs are highly addictive and the FDA warns of that. Again, the individual is never given that full information.
DEBRA: But it’s standard practice. The thing that [inaudible 00:33:48] is that it’s standard practice to give people Synthroid. It’s like, “Oh, you need some help with your thyroid. Here’s the Synthroid pill and here are your mental health drugs.”
LAURIE ANSPACH: Exactly.
DEBRA: It’s a package. It’s a package.
LAURIE ANSPACH: It’s a package and it deserves a closer inspection from where I sit because I’ve looked at many, many, many package inserts. I know exactly what you’re talking about. If you look at the package inserts or speak to an MD even and ask questions about a class of antibiotics called floral crinoline, you’ll see that psychiatric side effects are actually listed on those antibiotic package inserts.
DEBRA: But they don’t read them. They don’t read them and the doctor doesn’t make sure that they’re aware of it. Anyway, we need to go to break, but we’ll talk about this when we come back.
You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Laurie Anspach. She’s the Director of Mental Health Rights and her website is MentalHealthRights.org. We’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Laurie Anspach. She’s the Director of Mental Health Rights at MentalHealthRights.org.
Laurie, I’d like to bring this home so to speak. We’ve talked about different groups of people, children and elders. I think what I’m getting is that even if you don’t have somebody who’s insisting or coercing or whatever to have you take mental health drugs – as we were talking on the last segment, I started thinking about how frequent it is that people listen to their doctors. I’m not saying that people shouldn’t listen to their doctors or they shouldn’t comply.
I was interviewing doctors. I was looking for an MD just because I think I should have an MD. So I was interviewing doctors and I went to one doctor. We talked five minutes. He started yelling at me for not being a compliant patient. I just got up and I said, “Thank you very much. I don’t think you’re the right doctor for me.” And I walked out.
And he very much had this attitude that I was supposed to do everything that he told me without question. I have this idea that probably more doctors are like that than not. I think that the general attitude [inaudible 00:40:30] if my doctor tells me.
I’ll just tell you. My father, seven years ago, was lying in a hospital dying and I offered to bring him some fresh juice and he didn’t want it. He said, “I’m just going to do what my doctor tells me.” He did what his doctor told him until he died. And he wouldn’t do any life-affirming thing like drinking fresh juice.
LAURIE ANSPACH: Isn’t that amazing and shocking and appalling?
DEBRA: Yes.
LAURIE ANSPACH: It is.
DEBRA: I was amazed, shocked and appalled. And there are so many things that I know. I mean the kind of healthcare that I get for myself personally is not about treating illness with a drug. It’s about doing things that create life in your body, that create health.
There are all kinds of things that you can do on the positive side from taking supplements to eating organic food, to drinking enough water. There are just all these things that we can do, getting enough sleep, exercise. And people don’t do those things and then they go to a doctor and they want to get a pill. Then the doctor says, “Okay, I’m going to give you this pill.” And you don’t get the warnings that those can do to you.
LAURIE ANSPACH: That’s exactly right.
DEBRA: I mean I understand this because I came from a family that did that. That was given to me as a child. I spent 20 years going to a doctor and taking prescriptions until I decided that prescriptions don’t create health. They may alleviate symptoms, but they don’t create health.
We have so many things available to us that we could be doing that are life-affirming that restore our bodies, that give us what our bodies need in order to be healthy. And we’re not doing them.
LAURIE ANSPACH: That’s exactly right. And if we do come full circle to what can people do, first pay attention to your newsletter, your radio show. Debra, you do such a fabulous job. The amount of health that can be derived from all the things that you’re talking about is incredible. Also individuals who may have nutritional problems, any kind of physical problems, they’re going to only benefit from more healthy lifestyles and nutrition.
And then also get the information on what is happening in the mental health community, what is happening in the medical community because there are more substance abuses now really under the umbrella of mental health. Medical is really under and in conjunction with that same umbrella of mental health. Mental health insinuates in absolutely every profession all the way to veterinarian.
DEBRA: Wow.
LAURIE ANSPACH: They’re prescribing mental health drugs for animals, for illnesses as opposed to really treating the illness.
If individuals just took a little bit of time maybe a couple of times in the internet or just a conversation with an advocate to just get some basic ABCs of what are your rights, what is the information, what are some of the resources online where you could look up what your doctor is saying or suggesting.
For example, there are a lot of people who don’t eat well or don’t exercise or not taking care of themselves or having just too much stresses and don’t sleep well. It’s a big problem. So they go to the doctor and the next thing you know, they’re on the benzodiazepine and benzodiazepine is extremely dangerous and highly addictive. Yet, they may not think twice about it because like you’re saying, “Well, the doctor prescribed it.”
DEBRA: It’s because people trust their doctors. I’m not saying that doctors are not trustworthy, but we grew up – actually not everybody in the world grew up this way. But there are a lot of people who grew up and that the doctor is the one. You go to the doctor, you can trust your doctor and the doctor will give you something that will make you better.
The whole idea of the modern medical paradigm is to go to the doctor and get a drug. But drugs do not make your body healthy. Drugs can’t alleviate symptoms, but they can’t make your body healthy. If you’re not doing the health-building things, you’re not going to be healthy. That’s just the way it is. That’s just “Two plus two equals four.”
I think what I would want to say to my listeners after listening to everything that you said is you have the right to make your own decisions and that you don’t have to do something just because the doctor or a teacher or anybody else tells you that you have to do it. You have your own freedom of choice to decide for yourself if this is right for you. That would be number one.
Number two is if somebody that you go to for advice on your body or your mental state gives you the treatment, you should do your own research and find out if that’s the thing that you want to take. I take a lot of supplements.
I just started taking a new herbal product and stuff. These are all natural and healthy and things, but I don’t put them in my body until I check them up myself. I go to professionals because I trust them to have more experience and knowledge than I do in this field and that they can assess my body and figure out the right thing to give me. But I still look on those labels. When somebody gives me and puts a supplement in my hand, I look and then I see if it has any extraneous ingredients in it that I don’t want to take.
We all have the right to do this. And if more people would do this, if they would do it in their own lives, if they do it with their children, if they would do it with their elders, we’d have a lot less problem with drugs.
LAURIE ANSPACH: A hundred percent. It empowers the individual to really take control over their own health and their wellbeing and their loved ones and their friends and their neighbors.
And just as an experiment, each of your listeners can just ask one person that they know, “Have you ever had a problem with this? Have you ever been prescribed the med? Did you ever have any adverse effect?” I’d be very surprised if not every single one of us knows at least one person who has ran into trouble with it.
DEBRA: I’m sure because drugs have many adverse effects. I’ve had adverse effects with drugs, which is one of the reasons why I don’t take them anymore. And I’ve seen people like I already explained about my brother just getting addicted to these things. He shouldn’t have died at age 58. He just shouldn’t have.
Anyway, we’re almost at the end of the show. This has been so interesting. This has been so interesting. So I think we really need it because drugs are toxic substances. We shouldn’t be putting them in our bodies unless we really know.
It’s just a matter of not having the information and it’s so easy to get it. If somebody gives you a drug, you can just go online and type in the name of the drug and you will get pages and pages of information about what the health effects are. You can go to a site like WebMD. They tell you all the side effects and everything. All the information is there.
It’s just each one of us making the decision to exercise our right of choice and the right to find out about it and then say no if that’s not – if a doctor gives you a drug and you go online and you see all these health effects, you can then go back to your doctor and say, “Excuse me, but I’d like to have some other treatment. There must be another way to handle this than put this toxic stuff in my body.”
When I decided that many, many years ago, I started looking for other kinds of treatment and I found them. It has made all the difference.
So I’m glad you’re doing what you’re doing.
LAURIE ANSPACH: Yeah. And I’m so happy you’re out there doing what you’re doing, Debra. I applaud you and commend you highly. You’re absolutely right. I’m so sorry for your brother because he should not have had to pass away so young and they could have been prevented. The drugs are highly addictive and they have severe FDA warnings.
Thyroid problem, in itself – when the medication is given, again like you were saying, go into internet. Just put the name of the drug and then put “FDA package inserts” because if you read it right from the package insert, there’s no interpretation. I do that for every single drug because then you know what the risks are, what the alleged benefits are.
And just as an added note, we’re in a country where there’s direct-to-consumer advertising on pharmaceuticals.
DEBRA: I need to just interrupt you because the music is going to come on in just a few seconds. I want to say thank you.
Laurie’s website is MentalHealthRights.org. You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. Be well.
Tests You Won’t Find at Your Doctor’s Office
My guest today is Wendy Myers, CHHC, NC, founder and head writer of Liveto110.com. We’ll be talking about special tests that Wendy offers that go above and beyond what you can get from a medical doctor. Things like organic acids and neurotranmitters, and how these relate to your health and detox. Wendy is a certified holistichealth and nutrition coach in Los Angeles, Ca, She is also certified in Hair Mineral Analysis for the purpose of designing Mineral Power programs for clients to correct their metabolism and body chemistry. She is currently seeking her masters in clinical nutrition at Bridgeport University in Connecticut. Wendy hosts the weekly Live to 110 Video Podcast and the Modern Paleo Cooking show on her Live to 110 Youtube Channel. store.liveto110.com/functional-medical-tests
LISTEN TO OTHER SHOWS WITH WENDY MYERS
- Toxics in Your Body? Tests Can Tell You the Truth
- Choosing and Using Home Saunas to Remove Toxic Chemicals From Your Body
- Deep Detox With Minerals
- Health and Nutrition Coach on Diet and Detox
TOXIC FREE TALK RADIO
Tests You Won’t Find at Your Doctor’s Office
Host: Debra Lynn Dadd
Guest: Wendy Myers, CHHC, NC
Date of Broadcast: July 08, 2015
DEBRA: Hi, I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and this is Toxic Free Talk Radio, where we talk about how to thrive in a toxic world and live toxic free. It is Wednesday, July 8, 2015. I’m here in beautiful Clearwater, Florida.
Today, we’re going to be talking about tests that can you can have done on your body that you’re not going to find in your doctor’s office.
I go to a medical doctor. I go to alternative doctors. I go to practitioners that know about health but aren’t even doctors. The experience that I’ve had in the doctor’s office is that there are so many tests even that they could order through a lab that would tell you things like how much vitamin D is in your body, for example or testing other things like how well your kidneys are functioning and various kinds of things.
But they don’t order those things even though they are there and they’re available to the doctor to order. They don’t order them. Several months ago, I got a list of tests from Pamela Seefeld, who is on every other Wednesday. She’s a pharmacist. And we’re talking about how you can not be taking pharmaceuticals but instead, be taking natural remedies.
And so I asked her what are the tests that I should be taking, and she gave me a list, things that the doctor should be ordering. It was much longer than what my doctor was ordering, and I took it in, and I said, “We do order these.” And he said, “Sure.” And that was the last time he did it, only just because I asked him that one time.
So then I asked the receptionist about ordering and she said, “Well, the doctor can only order the tests that go with your diagnosis. He can’t order anything else and have it be covered by the insurance.” And I don’t have insurance but that’s another issue.
But the thing is that regular medical doctors are not necessarily ordering the tests that could be telling you things about your body that you might want to know.
So my guest today is Wendy Myers. She has a bunch of letters after her name which we’ll ask her about when she comes on. She’s the founder and head writer of Liveto110.com. And she is very trained in a lot of things that most people aren’t trained in. She has just started offering a lot of tests. And we’re going to talk about some of the different tests that she has available to you now, things that she can interpret that you’re not going to find in a lot of other places.
Hi, Wendy.
WENDY MYERS: Hi, and how are you?
DEBRA: I’m good. How are you?
WENDY MYERS: I’m doing fantastic.
DEBRA: Well, I have a bunch of letters after your name. CHHC, NC, and you now have FDN. What are all these things?
WENDY MYERS: The first one is a Certified Holistic Health Coach, this certification I got from this nutrition school I went to. The Nutritional Consultant I got when I got certified in hair mineral analysis. That’s my first love. I love hair mineral analysis. It’s such an amazing tool which I’ve done with you a handful of times.
And the next one is FDN, Functional Diagnostic Nutritionist. And I added that because I really felt that I needed to—I wanted to do all kinds of testing with my clients, testing that’s not typically done in a medical doctor’s office and testing which is needed.
I think that’s why a lot of people are going outside of their medical doctor and seeking the consults, the natural health professionals that are doing a functional diagnostic testing to get to the root cause of their illness, as opposed to covering it up with medications because that’s a doctor, they’re trained to do, and that’s what the insurance company would pay for.
So that’s what I do. I do functional diagnostic medicine to help unroot the cause of illness and to correct it naturally, to completely resolve the health issue at hand.
DEBRA: Why did you become a health coach?
WENDY MYERS: Well, I was having my pregnancy and I started studying nutrition and health, and cleaning up my environment, prepping for the baby and whatnot, and I just thought, “Why haven’t I studied this before?” I was so interested in this. And then I became very, very passionate about it. And then my father was diagnosed with cancer and really it was devastating, and he passed away within six months of his diagnosis. And I was angry about it. I didn’t understand why his cancer treatments made him so sick. I felt like he could have lived a few more years had he not undergone this treatment, radiation and chemo and whatnot. And I just started studying—I had all these questions. Why is everyone so sick? Why is everyone having cancer? Why was my father on 10 medications? And that contributed to his demise.
So I just started studying. And I started my blog, Liveto110.com, and I just wanted to share everything I was learning. And I just discovered about the underlying root cause of disease are mineral and nutrient deficiencies, and heavy metal and chemical toxicity.
When you blow it down and you look at all the disease labels, the majority of them are due to these two factors. So that’s my main message that I’m trying to get out to the world is that people need to do a foundational work that they’re not getting with their physicians. They need to mineralize their body with targeted nutrient therapy, like the sniper approach as opposed to the shotgun approach, of just taking a multivitamin. And they need to detox their body of heavy metals and chemicals.
You really don’t have any hopes of being healthy long term if you don’t address these two pressing health issues.
DEBRA: I completely agree with you. And I’ll just tell our listening audience that I figured out exactly the same thing before I even met you. So when we met, it was like, “Oh, here’s some agreement.”
We’re approaching it in slightly different ways, I would say, they were complementary, in that you know so much more than I do about how the body works and nutrition and all these tests, and you have all these certifications to do your nutritionist work. And I know more about where the toxic chemicals are and how they affect your body and what you can use instead. So I think that Wendy and I go together really well.
WENDY MYERS: Yes, we do. We’re like peas and carrots.
DEBRA: So let’s start talking about your tests. So what is the most important test that you think—now, before you answer this question, I’m on her page and it’s a huge page. Let me see how many tests are done on this page. There are 22 tests, I think, of all different kinds. And we obviously can’t talk about all 22 tests, in just this hour that we have together. So let’s start with which test do you think is the most important?
WENDY MYERS: Well, my favorite test is the hair mineral analysis. It gives me a picture of your body’s chemistry. But after that, an organic acid test is very, very important. That’s what gives me a tremendous amount of information about the acid that’s the ones gut bugs are producing.
DEBRA: Before we go on, tell us what the organic acids are because when I—I’m sure that most people listening have no clue what it is. I’m not even sure I know what it is.
WENDY MYERS: Basically, the gut bug too, what it is. It’s the waste products that your gut bugs are producing. And so by looking at these acids, we can tell what bacteria or families of bacteria you have in your gut. But it also tests other things in it as well. It tests your neurotransmitter metabolites. So we can see if there is an imbalance in your neurotransmitters. It tests amino acid absorption, so we can see if there’s possibly some reduced intestinal absorption, maybe some leaky gut, if you’re not absorbing proteins. It tests all your B vitamins. You can see if those are low. It’s just got so many different markers that it’s such a tremendous amount of information.
For instance, your ammonia levels, if those are high, we know you’ve got some liver problems going on. We’re going to work on that liver health. It will give an indication of your phosphoric acid and perhaps you’ve got some bone density issues, if that’s low. It gives a lot of information and it really helped me to work on someone’s gut issues. If they have bacterial infections or yeast infections, or it can show me potentially, you might have mold issues going on.
DEBRA: I need to interrupt you for a second just because we need to go to break and we’ll finish talking about this when we come back.
You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Wendy Myers with many letters after her name. She’s at Liveto110.com. We’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Wendy Myers. She’s the founder and head writer of Liveto110.com. And we’re talking today about a new set of tests that Wendy offers. If you want to go exactly to the page, you can go to ToxicFreeTalkRadio.com, find today’s show, and there’s a link to the page that has the functional medical test. That’s the name of the page, functional medical test.
Wendy, if they go to your website, how can they easily find that page?
WENDY MYERS: You can go to Store.Liveto110.com, and then on the left hand menu, you go to functional medical test, and it will all be right there.
DEBRA: So we were talking about the organic acids test.
WENDY MYERS: Well, I was saying before that when I discovered what type of gut infections people have, almost every person I test has some sort of gut infection. I automatically assume that everyone has parasites. It’s kind of a given especially sushi lovers. Each square inch of sushi has 10,000 parasite eggs.
DEBRA: I knew there was something I didn’t like about sushi.
WENDY MYERS: It’s pretty gross when you think about it but it sure is tasty. I like it.
So the organic acids test does not show parasites but it will show yeast and bacteria. And then based on that, I can give people all natural biocidal. They work just as well as prescription antibiotics. You have to take them for longer though. I’ll give people a course for about six to eight weeks and start with the parasite, then do bacteria, then do yeast. That’s six to eight weeks for each of those protocols. And then we’ll re-test in about six months and see if we were able to clear everything up.
DEBRA: That’s good. I just want to mention that I’ve had some test with Wendy, and she found some things and gave me some things. And when we had the next test, there was an improvement.
WENDY MYERS: You had a lot of improvement.
DEBRA: Yes, I’m really happy about that.
So what about oxalates? First, what’s an oxalate?
WENDY MYERS: I forgot to mention that.
DEBRA: There are no organic acids tests.
WENDY MYERS: The main reason you want to do the organic acids test, in my mind, is to find out if you have oxalates. And the Great Plains Laboratory is the only lab that does the organic acids test, that shows oxalates. Genova does not—many of my clients coming to me that the organic acids test with their doctor, using Genova, but you are missing a key component of the test, a key indicator of oxalates, which are major impediments to your health.
Oxalates are these little crystals that form in your body, one, through dietary intake. High oxalate foods include cacao, collagen, [inaudible 00:17:07] or using lots of collagen. I’m not a big fan of that because it’s very high in oxalates. A lot of greens like spinach and Swiss chard, the green smoothie fanatics out there, extremely high in oxalates. So you need to be very careful about that.
That’s just one aspect of oxalate intake. The next is if you had gut infections or long term gut infections, those produce oxalates as well.
DEBRA: I actually looked at the oxalate diet, and I was on it for a while because it was high oxalate—I had high oxalates in my body. But I was going on a kale kick, and you read things and you say, “Oh, I should be eating more greens, more kale, more this, more that.” But you don’t often find out the other side of it. And so if your body doesn’t deal with oxalates, well, then they’re going to build up and you need to watch out for that.
And so there’s all these balancing things that we need to watch out for.
WENDY MYERS: It’s a big problem. I find oxalates in 9 out of 10 people that I test. It continues to amaze me how many people have issues with oxalates. And when you have these, they cause so many problems in the body.
Number one, an inability to detox. The oxalates, these crystals will bind in mercury and lead and can make people very, very toxic, if these metals would be lodged in these crystals, and then lodged in your body, and you can’t detox them. It interferes in your entire body’s ability to detox, your ability the methylate, which means creating your own transmitters, and just so many different processes in your body are involved in methylation. It really gums up your whole body’s metabolism.
Not to mention causing really tight, achy muscles. People out there, their neck is always hurting, or you’re getting massages and just nothing helps it. They’re taking [inaudible 00:19:16]. Perhaps they’re taking pain medication or you have fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue. These can be caused by oxalates.
And so I think it’s very important, especially for anyone who has long term GI issues or known gut infections or parasitic infections. Get tested for oxalates and address it because it’s a fairly simple regimen to remove the oxalates from your body. And what I do with a client is I address the oxalates and once those have been broken down to a significant degree in the body by taking a handful of supplements and doing the low oxalate diet, after that, then I see what’s still left over that we need to address. But it really solves a lot of problems and removes a lot of health symptoms in the body that are bothering clients.
DEBRA: And it’s so not wildly known.
WENDY MYERS: No, it’s not. I don’t know why, but it’s not.
DEBRA: But it’s so important, and especially if you want to detox. And if you’re having problems detoxing, this could be something to look into.
We’re actually needing to go to break in about 40 seconds, so when we come back, let’s talk about neurotransmitters. I think you mentioned that the organic acids test tells about the neurotransmitters, right?
WENDY MYERS: It always shows the neurotransmitter metabolites. So it will only give an indication of an imbalance of them. But I like to do a direct test for neurotransmitters, which is a urine test. That’s a little bit different than your organic acids, but at least it gives an indication of some issues that require further investigation.
DEBRA: Okay, we’ll talk about that when we come back from the break.
You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Wendy Myers. She’s the founder and head writer of Liveto110.com, and she has a number of nutrition certifications that give information that is very different from other people that you will go to, including a doctor and other natural practitioners. Her website is Liveto110.com, and we’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Wendy Myers. She’s the founder and head writer of Liveto110.com, and has many nutrition certifications. She knows more about nutrition and especially about detoxing than practically anybody I’ve talked to. She always amazes me with what new things she has to say.
Let’s talk about neurotransmitters. First, tell us what a neurotransmitter is, and what can go wrong with it.
WENDY MYERS: Well, neurotransmitters are substances made in the body. They begin with amino acids, so you have to have proper protein consumption and intestinal absorption of proteins.
And so this is very, very important. A lot of different things can interfere with neurotransmitter production. The main neurotransmitters people have are serotonin, dopamine, other catecholamine, like norepinephrine, epinephrine. And most importantly is gaba. A lot of people are missing gaba and we’re so overstimulated today with stuff like the internet and even just the effects of EMF and wireless internet on our body. And always looking at screens, and we’re getting caffeine all day, and doing all this stuff that we’re so stimulated, we are depleted in gaba.
DEBRA: What is gaba? What does it do for our bodies?
WENDY MYERS: Well, gaba is the break. Gaba is a substance that turns all the stimulating neurotransmitters off. So the adrenaline, the norepinephrine, the epinephrine, gaba shuts that down, so you can relax.
So anyone with anxiety, anyone who can’t go to sleep or they’re constantly waking up, they probably need gaba. And for me, it was life-changing when I started taking gaba. And I recommend it to almost every single of my clients because they all usually some sort of issue with sleeping or falling asleep, et cetera, or anxiety. You do want to do neurotransmitter test first because if you just take gaba, it can make you depressed if you’re depleted in some stimulating neurotransmitters. So there has to be a delicate balancing act where you may need to supplement the amino acids to improve and upregulate the production of stimulating neurotransmitters or gaba can make you feel down or depressed or really tired.
Another really important one that was really life-changing for me was PEA, and PEA is found in chocolate. So for all of you chocoholics out there, like myself, you may just be—
DEBRA: I love chocolate.
WENDY MYERS: Any of you women out there or men that are—you’re going to murder someone if you don’t have your chocolate.
DEBRA: I used to be that way but my body’s calmed down about it. And now, I feel like I have a choice that I can eat chocolate or not eat chocolate, and I’m okay either way, whereas before, I had to have my chocolate.
WENDY MYERS: I was that way for a number of years. I had to have my chocolate. Where’s the chocolate? And I’d have anxiety if I didn’t have it. And I made the correlation that when I ate chocolate, I was really able to focus and work really productively for a few hours following the consumption of chocolate. I thought it was just the sugar. I was doing a sugar high. But what I found out when I tested my neurotransmitters is that I was deficient in PEA, and chocolate contains PEA.
And so now that I’ve supplemented the precursor the PEA, which is phenylalanine, kind of a mouthful, I don’t even think about chocolate. And I lost actually—yes, it called phenylalanine, and it’s just a simple amino acid that I take in the morning and sometimes in the afternoon if I feel I need a little more brain functioning or concentration or focus. And it completely took away all my brain fog, any kind of remaining brain fog I have left over. I can focus for hours. My thinking is still clear. My verbiage, when I speak very, very clear, and it just was really life-changing for me, just taking this one supplement, and following supplementation of the phenylalanine, I lost 20 pounds in about two and a half months because I no longer ate this gigantic chocolate bar. Literally, I ate a massive chocolate bar about 2 to 3 pm every day. I wanted some sugar and I wanted some PEA, and that gave me the focus to finish off the rest of my day.
DEBRA: Let me tell you, as I have a similar story. So I don’t eat chocolate bars because I don’t want the sugar and stuff, and so I figured out how I could make with organic cocoa. I would make what I would call “fudge.” And so what I would do is I would take about a heaping teaspoon of organic cocoa. I would put in coconut sugar and grass-fed cream, and butter made from grass-fed cream. And I would mix it all up, and sometimes I put walnuts in it or some kind of flavoring like orange extract or something. But I had to have this every day after lunch. I just had to have it after lunch as I couldn’t work unless I had this chocolate.
And now, I don’t eat it anymore at all. I haven’t lost 20 pounds but the point is that I must be doing something right in my diet and in the supplements that I’m taking because I’ve gone from craving specific foods to—in the past couple of weeks, it’s been so ripe that—I don’t even want to eat almost. Yesterday, honestly, I made this wonderful salad that was all vegetables. It was lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes, avocadoes, and I put wheat-free soy sauce on it and olive oil. And my body loved it so much. I got so much satisfaction out of that that I had it again for dinner.
And that’s all I ate yesterday. And if you were to have said to me eat that a few years ago, I would say no. I want my chocolate. And I felt good all day long.
WENDY MYERS: One of those things where when you are taking the right supplements, especially minerals, and you’re nourishing your body, you don’t need as much food and you don’t have the food craving you used to have. Before I started taking minerals, I always craved salt and vinegar potato chips, and my body just wanted that salt. It just desperately wanted that salt. And as soon as I started taking minerals, I started having calcium and magnesium and zinc and a handful of trace mineral complex, et cetera, it’s amazing to me that I never looked at them again.
DEBRA: That’s very interesting.
WENDY MYERS: It’s just amazing to me. So a lot of women out there I know are struggling with certain cravings and things like that, and biology will always overcome will power. And so you have to listen to your body. Your body is trying to get a nutrient need or minerals or if you’re craving chocolate, maybe PEA, magnesium, copper. There are all kinds of things that your body is craving that you probably need something in that. If you’re craving carbohydrates, your body is trying to make serotonin. You need serotonin.
DEBRA: We need to go to break. So hold on. And we’ll be right back. You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and today, I’m talking with Wendy Myers, founder and head writer of Liveto110.com. We’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to ToxicFreeTalkRadio.com. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Wendy Myers, founder and head writer of Liveto110.com, and holder of many certifications about nutrition that are far beyond what most nutritionists are going to talk to you about.
Wendy, so another test you have is the genetic test. Tell us about that and why should somebody get that done.
WENDY MYERS: Well, I love to do a genetic test on clients because it gives us a lot of information about nutrients people may be needing more of, should avoid. And it gives us a lot of information about—it explains to clients why they have certain health issues. For instance, if someone has a lot of GAD smith, or mutations in those genes, they’re going to have a lot more anxiety, a lot more propensity for drug and alcohol abuse, and it will explain why their family members or a lot of their family members have additions and things of that nature. It also will show someone’s propensity for certain issues, if they need to bio haggard, do a work around for.
Namely, if people have this one smith, they will need to really be worried about their estrogen. People that tend to have estrogen dominance and there are people that really need to worry about their liver health and be worrying about xenoestrogen intake and their environment or detoxing these estrogens because they’re at risk for estrogen-dependent cancers.
These are people that need to really maybe avoid hormone replacement therapy or birth control pills.
There’s a lot of different things that people learn about, about their health, and it can really help them to tailor their health regime or their supplement program, tailor it to their individual genetic needs.
DEBRA: So can there be information in this test that would help people understand how their body detoxes or doesn’t detox?
WENDY MYERS: Yes, exactly. It will tell me if people are having trouble making glutathione or if they have trouble with liver detoxification. It just gives a lot of different markers for detox issues. It also will give me markers for mitochondrial function or energy production, if they’ve got a lot of problems with their mitochondria and perhaps, it explains why they’re so tired all the time.
So again, it really helps me to really target their supplementation or get it more customized for their genetic issues. And that’s really, really important. There’s another pattern called the [inaudible 00:42:03] pattern, where these are people that cannot take flouroquinolone medications like antibiotics, certain antibiotics like Cipro and a handful of other family of antibiotics. And this will make them very, very sick.
I know there’s a lot of listeners out there that have taken Cipro, a round of antibiotics at the hospital with their doctor, and they were just never the same afterwards or it took them years to recover. So it can be very, very important to pinpoint if you have the [inaudible 00:42:36] pattern, but we call them [inaudible 00:42:38] because they need to avoid flouroquinolone medications because it can really kill them or make them extremely ill.
DEBRA: I’m actually really interested in the genetic test because I think that each of our bodies as an individual—we are like snowflakes. There are no two patters that are the same and our fingerprints are all unique. And I think that we probably all have unique genetic patterns that can tell us something about all these things that you’re talking about and where our strengths and weaknesses are. And we don’t know that if all we’re doing is taking drugs.
WENDY MYERS: Yes, exactly.
DEBRA: More and more I’m understanding the necessity to test whatever the test is, whatever method you use, to find out what’s really going on with your body because I see doctors just handing out prescription drugs. Of course, they do some testing but not as much as what you’re talking about and even natural practitioners whether they’re herbalists or homeopaths or whatever, it’s not that they’re not doing their own method—I’ve been to so many different people and I’ve never had a genetic test. And yet, that’s the basic blueprint of my body. And I didn’t even know that I could get one.
You hear about them on TV. Some character on a TV show needs a paternity test or something. But if you look at a hospital show or a doctor show, they’re not saying, “Well, let’s do a genetic test.” They just don’t do it.
WENDY MYERS: It takes a very special doctor to go outside his medical training, question his medical training and further their training even if they just have a personal interest or whatnot to be able to further their education and really want to provide their patients the very best care. Very few doctors that are cognizant of doing the latest test because it takes a lot of work. It’s a lot of reading and training, et cetera. Many doctors are overwhelmed with their patient load, especially if they work for HMO or whatnot, or at a clinic, a very busy clinic.
But it’s still important to learn about your genetics, your genetic weaknesses and propensities for certain diseases so you can do the work around for these, and the supplements according to your genes. But additionally, there’s a new field called pharmacogenetics where you can get a test done to find out what medications you should take and which ones you should avoid because every pharmaceutical company has to create a blueprint of the pathways that certain medications have to go through to be metabolized.
For a lot of people that have drug side effects or really bad side effects, it’s because they can’t metabolize certain drugs. So when you do this pharmacogenetic test, you can find out the drugs you should avoid or ones you should take. And you have to do this. I mean, I personally will never going to take medications but if you do take medications, which can be life-saving for many, you need to find out the ones you should avoid and the ones that work for your body.
DEBRA: Actually, I’ve never heard of that. That’s very interesting. But wouldn’t that also apply to—well, this test is designed for drugs, but to me, there should be a test like that for taking supplements. I just keep thinking about how so many people will take supplements or drugs or alternative therapies just on a shotgun approach, where you just take it and see what happens. And you’re approaching 180 degrees and absolutely opposite direction of saying, “Here are these tests and then I can give you supplements that are going to be exactly pinpointed for you.”
WENDY MYERS: And that’s important. It’s all about bio-individuality in supplementing according to you bio-individuality and taking medications based on your bio-individuality. And I have an article in my site about pharmacogenetics. It’s right on my homepage at Liveto110.com. I think it’s an incredibly interesting field that not a lot of people are talking about. You can get the testing with [inaudible 00:47:16] Laboratories. All those links and everything are on my website.
For me, I just think taking multivitamins are so 1990s. Today, it’s all about individual supplementation and medication.
DEBRA: I’m so glad to hear this. Now, we only just have about two minutes left. But I just want to mention that people can change their genetics. They can change their DNA. And so a test could be done before and then you could do things to improve your genetic situation. And a test done afterwards and see what happens.
WENDY MYERS: It’s very, very important.
DEBRA: Well, we only have a minute and a half left.
WENDY MYERS: So what was your question again?
DEBRA: I was talking about the genetic test and how we can change our DNA and that’s a whole show in itself about how we can change our DNA. I should probably do one on that. But we could take the test before and take the test after and see how we’ve changed our DNA.
WENDY MYERS: Actually, genes don’t really change at all. You want to do that test one time, which is great. But you can change your genetics or prevent mutation by detoxing your body and by eating a healthy diet. You have to be cognizant of this because many metals and chemicals cause our genes to mutate, and you can pass this down to your children, the future generation. So I think we’re becoming more and more sick as a population because of so many metals and chemicals in our environment mutating our genes, causing cancer, mutating cells, et cetera. But the gene mutations do get passed down to your children.
So it’s a paramount importance today to be thinking about your health, eating the right diet, avoiding chemicals in your diet, and thinking about a lifelong detoxification strategy which I talk a lot about on my podcast in the Live to 110 Podcast and on my website as well.
DEBRA: And I need to interrupt you again because we’ve only got several seconds now. So I want to say thank you so much. And everybody can go to Liveto110.com and Wendy has such interesting articles there and podcasts. Liveto110.com. You can also go to ToxicFreeTalkRadio.com and find out more about the guest to come and the guest from the past. All of our shows are recorded and you can listen to the archives.
I’m Debra Lynn Dadd.
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Advanced Nutrition Testing That Can Help You Detox
Today my guest is Lori Puskar DC, Client Advocate and Chief Technical Officer and on the Board of Directors of Ulan Nutritional Systems, Inc. (UNS) located in Clearwater, Florida. UNS is a training facility which teaches the nutritional technique known as Nutrition Response Testing®. Developed by Dr. Freddie Ulan, Nutrition Response Testing is a non invasive system of analysis which detects and handles the true cause of health problems without the use of drugs and surgery. The program includes testing for heavy metals and toxic chemicals and treating body imbalances caused by them. Dr Lori is the top Nutrition Response Testing health care practitioner in the country. She has delivered seminars and training on this technique to 1000’s of health care practitioners from every state for the past 10 years. She has directly and indirectly helped tens thousands of people improve their health with health situations ranging from fatigue to infertility. Dr Lori is a 1994 graduate of New York Chiropractic College and a nutritionist since 1996. Find a certified NRT clinician at www.unsinc.info/locate-clinician.html
TOXIC FREE TALK RADIO
Advanced Nutrition Testing That Can Help You Detox
Host: Debra Lynn Dadd
Guest: Lori Puskar DC
Date of Broadcast: July 07, 2015
DEBRA: Hi I’m Debra Lynn Dadd and this is Toxic Free Talk Radio where we talk about how to thrive in a toxic world and live toxic-free.
It’s Tuesday, July 7, 2015. I’m here in Clearwater, Florida. There’s no thunderstorm today, so bright shiny day and I hope we’re going to have a great show today.
My guest today is Lori Puskar. She’s a chiropractic doctor. She’s a client advocate and Chief Technical Officer and on the Board of Directors of Ulan Nutrition Systems located here in Clearwater, Florida and what they do with Nutrition Systems is – I’m going to let her explain. Hi, Lori!
LORI PUSKAR: Hey!
DEBRA: The reason why I invited Lori to be on the show and to talk about the system is because I’ve been to three different practitioners who do this. I should say that I’ve done this over a period of years, this system.
I started maybe 10 or 12 years ago and had a lot of success. But in that particular office, there was some stuff going on and they weren’t very organized which is no reflection of the system itself. It was just the office, it was having a problem and they were also very far away. I was traveling like an hour’s drive to go get this and I decided I needed something closer to home.
Then I went to another practitioner of the system, again had a lot of success. I stayed with her for a couple of years and then decided to work with someone else because I wanted work with that particular person who was not doing the system.
I decided after 5 years of not doing it that I needed to go back to the system. I keep going back to it because every time I do, I get good results.
LORI PUSKAR: Correct!
DEBRA: This is what we’re going to talk about today. It’s called Nutrition Response Testing. But first, Lori would you tell us about how the system was developed and how you became involved in it?
LORI PUSKAR: Sure, it was actually a personal means to an end for its developer Dr. Freddie Ulan who is also chiropractic-trained and graduated in the 1950s.
Unfortunately in the early 1990s, Dr. Ulan ran into a little bit of health situation of his own. That again was trying a very conservative method in cleaning up his diet and doing the best he could as most of us who are into health and nutrition, you know and understand how to apply the basics.
Unfortunately, the basics just weren’t doing the trick or turning his health around to the magnitude he needed it to. He basically started on his quest of finding who actually knew how to genuinely heal a body. His studies and research took him in and outside the United States in order to find the truth because there are many, many claims that are made.
They are saying of different techniques and products, systems of all kinds in the healthcare industry and he basically was his own guinea pig trying to find the ones that actually worked, that actually got the success and had the claims that they were promoting or preaching, etc.
DEBRA: Uh huh.
LORI PUSKAR: Out of that, he found that no one really had the “system”. Everybody had a little bit, but no one really had it in its entirety. And he would speak – we’re talking about medical greats here and…
DEBRA: Right.
LORI PUSKAR: He was like, “Why don’t you teach the whole system?” One for one everybody’s like, “No, we like the piece we’re teaching and that’s where we are going to stick to teaching.” And he saw what was missing is the really step-by- step process of the brilliance of everybody’s research and we’re going back all the way back to hundreds and thousands of years, all the way back to traditional Chinese medicine and beyond.
DEBRA: uh huh.
LORI PUSKAR: So it was not anyone in particular. It was all the brilliance of all the different healthcare models. So, what Dr. Ulan did is basically, since no one was actually teaching in a very systematic form is he took all the brilliance from all of the areas.
What he took for him to restore his health fully and completely because he was quite ill, and he put that in the most workable system in the exact sequence. To the point where to just do it the way obviously you’re saying we teach and what I’m a part of now, you can almost guarantee the exact same result case-to-case person-to-person again as long as you follow the sequence then you do it standardly.
DEBRA: I want to hear the rest of the story but I just want you interject this while I’m thinking of it; one of the things I’ve seen in other practitioners that they give treatments but the treatments are often diagnostic.
LORI PUSKAR: Right.
DEBRA: So they’ll say, “Take this drug” or “Take this supplement. We’ll see what it does and we’ll see if you get better.” I’m laughing at…
LORI PUSKAR: Right.
DEBRA: I’m laughing at that because that’s not the way you’re system is. So go ahead with your story and we’ll talk about…
LORI PUSKAR: No, it’s absolutely true.
DEBRA: We’ll talk about that later.
LORI PUSKAR: There’s too much trial and error at a high expense to patients…
DEBRA: Right.
LORI PUSKAR: personally and financially. So yes, that’s where Dr. Ulan’s brilliance came in. It was a very workable and proven system that if you did this and you did this in this sequence depending upon how severe the health situation, you can assume an improvement or a full success three, six, nine months or a year later. Depending on what it took but again the bottom line is following the sequence.
DEBRA: Right.
LORI PUSKAR: That’s what he did and word got out. Everybody was, “Dr. Ulan, what did you do?” and he’s like, “Well, I just created a system.” And they were, ” You have to teach that to others.” And he goes, “That wasn’t really the plan but okay.”
DEBRA: Yeah.
LORI PUSKAR: He definitely wanted to let others what he had done so his goal and purpose wasn’t to be a teacher per se but he had stumbled upon something that he knew his Chiropractic peers and everyone else needed to know. General public, etc. and hence the birth of what you said Nutrition Response Testing which is the actual system analysis that I just talked about that he developed in his personal health story.
DEBRA: So how then did you get involved in it?
LORI PUSKAR: Then what happen is I was traditionally trained as a Chiropractor, I was in Pennsylvania at the time and what I ran into–which is many healthcare practitioners are running into not only chiropractors, it’s everyone in the healthcare model-is that patients aren’t doing well as you hope or expect. Or you don’t get the results you wanted, like you sort of get some results even like you said in the different care.
You kind of got there, you got something, it’s better than nothing but you are still hanging like hmmm. You knew there was something that was missing and so…
DEBRA: Actually, what happened to me why I came back was that it wasn’t that I wasn’t improving. It was that–I’ll just say I just had my birthday a couple of weeks ago…
LORI PUSKAR: Oh great!
DEBRA: …and I just turned 60.
LORI PUSKAR: Wow!
DEBRA: When I tell people that they say, “Oh, no! You’re not sixty. You’re not sixty because I’ve looked like I’m about forty-five.
LORI PUSKAR: Right.
DEBRA: Also I’ve had ongoing health issues which I’ve had for a long time. Which I continue to improve so it’s not like I’m in spectacular health but I’m extremely functional…
LORI PUSKAR: Uh huh
DEBRA: But there were still things that–it’s not like I’m lying in bed or restrictions or anything like that–but I just want to keep optimizing my health and so even though I’m making progress with the other doctor, I just got to the point where I said, “We’re not solving these things. We’re not solving these specific items.” And I thought, “You know what I just need to go back to Nutritional Response Testing.”
LORI PUSKAR: Right and that is the key part of it like you’re saying the goal when the missing part comes in.
DEBRA: Right.
LORI PUSKAR: You could end up chasing symptoms. You can get into the Band-Aid care and even though you are using the natural methods like herbs, vitamins, teas, etc.
DEBRA: Yeah.
LORI PUSKAR: It still just to a certain degree chasing symptoms and not getting at the true cause. So that’s the brilliance of this because we’re talking about restoration. You’re not taking about systematic improvement…
DEBRA: Right, right.
LORI PUSKAR: …which is obviously widely spread in the alternative HealthCare scene to begin with. :
DEBRA: That’s exactly right.
LORI PUSKAR: That’s what he discovered and like I said I was really staying natural with the true cause in mind as being a chiropractor myself but wasn’t getting the clinical results that I hoped were expected even within the chiropractic-realm. So I had a suspicion there might be more to the big picture when it comes to how to truly fixing and handling a body. And maybe chiropractic, though a great component possibly was only just one of the many components that I had to take a look at.
Dr. Ulan just happens to be having a seminar teaching Nutritional Response Testing the state of Pennsylvania at the time and I said, “I’m there. I want to see, hear and find out if this is the piece that I’ve been missing.
Of course as a practitioner, it was. I went home and implemented it to the practice. It wasn’t the piece I was missing to all those chiropractic cases. Again, they were all seeing improvement to some degree as a chiropractic patient but I wasn’t getting the miracles nor the complete results of symptomatic relief that turned into a total change in the health of the patient. Nutritional Response Testing allowed me to fix and handle fully and completely any of those cases that I had last. It’s just that I could never get—and the patient as well, we as a team we could never really get them where we really want to get them.
DEBRA: Right. Let me take a break but when we come back, we want to hear all about this because – you really want to stay, because I’ve experienced these wonderful things myself. You’re listening to Toxic-Free Talk radio. My guest today is Lori Puskar and we’ll be right back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic-Free Talk radio. Today, my guest today is Lori Puskar. She’s a chiropractic but more importantly she’s a clinician of Nutrition Response Testing and we’re going to talk about more—she’s going to tell you how this works and the program is. But before we do that, this is a show about toxic chemical and health effects etc. So let’s talk about how toxics fit in to this program. I know that one of the things you test for is toxic chemicals, so tell us about that.
LORI PUSKAR: Sure. The absolute truth is that there are many barriers that a patient and the health of the body is running into. You talk about it in the show and everything in your book talks about is the key component to that is definitely all the toxins. I went through your book and the pytoxin is a poison, it doesn’t matter what the category. But of course, what is understood more by people are the chemicals. I’m seen that you have mentions, metals, etc. But anything that can be considered a toxin is or a poison to the body, definitely need to be ruled out ahead of time because if those barriers are not eliminated ahead of time then the health and restoration and symptomatic improvement and really going through the patient into a true definition as healthy, these barriers must be eliminated first and foremost.
DEBRA: I just want to emphasize is you said first and foremost because I’m always saying, and now you said it in your viewpoint, that you could do all these treatments but if you‘re in still being exposed or if there are still toxins in your body, those other things they’ll work for a certain degree but the toxic chemicals they’ll prevent you from getting well.
LORI PUSKAR: Absolutely true. They are the true barriers and if they show up in the patient’s case then obviously they have to be handled first and foremost. So let’s just say a great example so many people are concern about are heart disease and heart attacks and heart cholesterol. And you could be in the most perfect heart support program. All natural, all organic vitamins, diets, etc. but if there is a true chemical or poisonous barrier in the way to get in that nutrition really into the heart and the heart tissues, like you said, they will never work to the fullest extent until that barrier of the chemical or poison is removed and that’s absolutely true clinically what I’ve observed and physiologically as far as the body function and what you can hope to achieve from a true and medical standpoint.
DEBRA: Can you just –We’ll talk about the exact method when we come back from the next break but can you tell us some examples of the things you have observed when you have treated people for chemicals.
LORI PUSKAR: Sure. First of all, what I’ve noticed is that it’s not an absolute but there are chemicals, metals, poisons are not created equal. There the ones that definitely cause more harm than others. And the ones that are again environmental and that you can get from home. Your drinking water etc. that many of your listeners are familiar with. They’re the most common ones. They are the ones that I usually concentrate on the technique on the Nutrition response Testing because they’re usually the culprit, thank good ness, so it’s not complete mystery.
DEBRA: Which ones do you find the most common and the most effective?
LORI PUSKAR: One of the most common ones are definitely chlorine because it is being used everywhere. It’s being used to whiten all of our grains, breads, rice, etc. it’s in our drinking water. Especially living here in Florida it’s in everyone’s pool unless you have natural style pool. It is a very common used disinfectant across the board and every industry. So chlorine is a very common one.
On the heavy metal side, even though it’s a metal but seeing it toxicity, you’re seeing a lot of mercury poisoning and aluminum poisoning. A lot of women’s products have aluminums so it’s just rampant some of these main chemicals are everywhere. So they are the few of the top ones.
DEBRA: And so what kind of effects do you see in patients when they come in? like what kind of symptoms you commonly see in the results when people test positive for chemicals?
LORI PUSKAR: Interesting, we have talked about – briefly mentioned in the first statement was about the fear behind Nutritional testing and how that ties them to these chemicals and these toxins is that something that came out of these work and one of the monsters is that anything can cause anything first and foremost. So interestingly, to answer your question and I’m going to use that these poisons do everything. I have seen it a little bit of dark circling around the eyes all the way to any blown case of severe auto-immune disease. The answer is I have seen I have seen this cause about everything,
DEBRA: When I was writing my last book Toxic-Free, I did a completely new study as if I have never studied toxic chemicals before. I studied, studied and my conclusion was toxic chemicals have been associated in every single kind of illness there is.
LORI PUSKAR: Absolutely.
DEBRA: It doesn’t matter I mean when I first started 30 years ago, I have studied to this field because I had an immune system dysfunction that was caused by toxic chemicals and people didn’t have associations like they didn’t even know that chemicals cause cancer back then. Now you can go online and you can find studies associated anything that was wrong in your body. You can find study that associates toxic chemicals with it.
LORI PUSKAR: Absolutely true. Part of it say a biochemistry standpoint these chemical mimic or look like natural substances in the body. That’s part of it why they get to be so dangerous and they can end up like you’re saying can go across the board in any system. I don’t have them all memories but there’s a handful of chemical that can look like thyroid hormones like cholesterol or the female hormones. So when the body sees it coming, it’s not really sure if it’s the real thing or not the real thing.
DEBRA: I know.
LORI PUSKAR: Then it confuses the body, that’s how they’re saying, you can have a chemical mimicking the real thing and that body part or organs pulls it in and, “Ooh, this is what I need.” And then after 10 years, made of wrong thing.
DEBRA: Yeah.
LORI PUSKAR: Then you get the symptoms of that organ in distress regardless of what the mechanism that got you into trouble, your symptom pattern can be the same whether it was lead or mercury or arsenic or acetate or pesticides. Once the problem has occurred all you know is that the organ and their system or health situation and symptoms –there is a pattern of what the body does and our job is to go find out what got you into trouble in the first place.
DEBRA: Yes, when we come back from the break Lori will explain all of it because it’s a very interesting system and it works really, really well. You’re listening to Toxic-Free Talk radio. I’m DEBRA: Lynn Dadd and my guest today is Lori Puskar, she’s a doctor of chiropractic and a practitioner of Nutrition Response Testing which we’re going to learn in about a couple of minutes. Stay tuned.
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DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic-Free Talk radio. I’m DEBRA: Lynn Dadd and my guest today is Lori Puskar, she’s a doctor of chiropractic and she practices of Nutrition Response Testing. So tell us about Nutrition Response Testing?
LORI PUSKAR: Okay, great! Of course, it’s fantastic. I’m a tad biased but…
DEBRA: It is fantastic! I want to say just one thing before start talking. One of the reasons, I came back for it now is because I have some long-term things going on that I have tried lots of things for and when I look at the cost of Nutrition Response Testing vs. the cost of going to other doctors, it’s immensely different because I was looking at—I talked to one doctor who said, “Yeah, I can totally tell what’s wrong with your body and it’s $2000 worth of tests for the first appointment.”
When you go to Nutrition Response Testing, the practitioner charges you for an office visit I paid $43.00 and for some supplements whatever happens to be. And the supplements cost $19.00 or $22.00 – it’s not thousands of dollars to do this.
LORI PUSKAR: Right. One thing definitely in this model is freedom in healthcare for everyone and there can’t be any barriers to getting a sick person well regarding the circumstance. So if you’re really going to get the truth about health out to the entire country at a cost they can afford. The average American family throughout the country could have the family on a program – yes, there’s a cost-affordable calculation that need to be looked at, something that is design inherently to the Nutrition Response Testing itself. So, yes you’re absolutely correct on that point.
DEBRA: Yes. So I wanted everybody to know who’s listening to this program about something that I’d like to do. You can just go to toxicfreetalkradio.com, look in today’s – description of today’s show and at the bottom there’s a link. Just click on the link and they’ll find somebody in your area who can do this with you.
LORI PUSKAR: Right, that’s a great thing it is across the country. So I know a lot of listeners and they have friends and family around the country…
DEBRA: Oh, this show is actually around the world!
LORI PUSKAR: Okay, wonderful! I wasn’t exactly sure how far we are talking and that’s fantastic!
DEBRA: We’re going around the world.
LORI PUSKAR: Yey! Alright, let’s talk about freedom of healthcare. Anyone in the world deserves health and at an affordable price. That’s fantastic to anyone who can get the message. Basically, there is hope and it comes in the form of health nutritionists and pharmacists. Excellent! I’m glad I know that.
DEBRA: Okay, so tell us about the program.
LORI PUSKAR: Okay, good! So, Nutrition Response Testing is derived from previous techniques and from – I’m sure everyone knows that it’s from Muscle Testing. It comes out of the world of traditional muscle testing. Another word that many listeners will be familiar with is applied kinesiology. Again, I’m sure you’re saying, “I already tried that and it didn’t work. Like many things in life, you may have tried something like it but I’m telling you, you have never tried Nutrition Response Testing.
DEBRA: That’s Right! The way you do it, it’s different from any muscle testing I’ve ever had.
LORI PUSKAR: Absolutely! Which we’re again part of Dr. Ulan’s discovery that muscle testing was a key part but not the only part to the Nutrition Response Testing accomplishes and workable principles but also workable principles from the other healthcare’s fields.
Again, it’s a non-invasive analysis based from muscle testing procedure. So you’re using your body as your answer key which I fantastic because this brings us back to the whole, “Anything can cause anything.
If I honestly don’t know and moving forward in the beginning of my full analysis, what exactly are we going to find? I only know the most common denominators that most people get themselves trouble with as we’d already talked about chemicals, toxins and poisons being one of the key areas via the muscle testing that individual patient’s body which one. Because argumentatively, what couldn’t be true—let’s say the patient does have acetate, arsenic and pesticide poisoning.
Not only do I need data, I also need to ask the body which one to handle first. The goal would be that we would get the domino effect that if I handle the arsenic that will handle the other two for me. So it’s really putting together a tailor-made, ultra-specific, nutrition program for each individual patient. So even if two had identical patients both experiencing chemical poisoning, my goal would be to isolate which chemicals, each poisons in each order and in the exact nutritional program for that patient particular toxicity itself.
DEBRA: Would you talk a little more regarding doing things in sequence because that such a key part of this – it’s that the body wants to handle certain things first. Can you explain more how that works?
LORI PUSKAR: Absolutely true! There’s a word that the health industry especially in the world alternative medicine is what we want to tap into is the innate intelligence of this body. Though I and the doctor have a priority order and even the patients have a priority order, the actual priority order that matters is the one of this innate intelligence. It is also called Autonomic Nervous system, it’s that part of the body that makes you want to survive or live despite any factors or barriers you throw at it. I want to talk to the guys in charge and that’ who’s in charge and again you have to do it in sequence. So I might think, it’s lead first and the body is like, “Nope I got it on the lead but however I need you to handle the arsenic first.” So it allows you then to get that domino effect.
It’s the exact same principle as opening a combination lock, I might have the numbers but if I don’t have those numbers in the exact order, that lock will never open.
DEBRA: Yeah.
LORI PUSKAR: So you’re innate intelligence, your autonomic nervous system has does that the same keypad and I had to have it in exact order, otherwise it will never open the case for full healing and health.
DEBRA: So I’ve just been having that experience when I went to my practitioner last week, I said, “I was having trouble with my eyes, would you give me something for my eyes” and he said, “No! Your body doesn’t want anything for your eyes. It doesn’t want to handle anything for your eyes right now.”
LORI PUSKAR: Exactly.
DEBRA: He wouldn’t give me anything. I walked in to his office with about 50, no not that many, about 35 bottles of supplements. And he says, “Why are you taking all these things?” And it’s because what we were talking about earlier, the diagnostic effects of supplements. That you just take all these things and see if it could handle or not handle the symptoms. My first visit I walked in with these bottles and he gave me two bottles.
LORI PUSKAR: Right.
DEBRA: Two bottles that nobody else had given me and this is what my body needed. One of them was a homeopathic remedy which nobody ever, ever in my entire 60 years has given me.
LORI PUSKAR: Fantastic!
DEBRA: And it was – I started feeling better right way.
LORI PUSKAR: That’s the whole key.
DEBRA: It was the right one in the right sequence.
LORI PUSKAR: Absolutely, and that’s the key and exactly what that innate intelligence wants to do.
DEBRA: Good and when we come back, we’ll talk more about those. I just think it’s so fascinating. You’re listening to Toxic-Free Talk radio. I’m DEBRA: Lynn Dadd and my guest today is Lori Puskar, she’s a doctor of chiropractic and a practitioner of Nutrition Response Testing which we’ve learning about and we’ll find out more when we come back.
DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic-Free Talk radio. I’m DEBRA: Lynn Dadd and my guest today is Lori Puskar, doctor of chiropractic and a practitioner of Nutrition Response Testing. F you want to more information about Nutrition Response Testing or if you find somebody in your area, just go to toxicfreetalkradio.com, look for today’s show and at the end of the description you can click on right ahead and it will take you to somebody who can do this with you in your area. So, tell us more about then program.
LORI PUSKAR: Sure. So just to recap Nutrition Response Testing is definitely doing things in the exact sequence and then again communication directly with the person in charge which would I love to say the patient’s insides and the nervous system and the computer system in there that’s actually in charge.
So what’s wonderful about Nutrition Response Testing is they give the practitioner the opportunity to communicate to the control center. And what leads to is what I said earlier a tailor-made program for that’s exactly right patient. And that gives the practitioner certainty and confidence that what they’re doing will get the results that they’re expecting because that’s the key. All of that other stuff though it’s beautiful and wonderful but the bottom line: What is the results? How good is it? How fantastic and how good can good be? It’s one thing to be, “Oh yeah, maybe I think I feel a little bit better“ to “Oh my gosh!” that is the difference about the results.
That’s what I love with Dr. Ulan and why I still want to get in this work personally is because his standards and result is like nothing I’ve ever seen. If it’s not perfect and anything less than that is almost unacceptable. We are not detonating perfect in this world but the goal is ever is anything less than that. We totally painted the picture to our practitioners and patients is expect the best. Let’s work together as a team in cooperation with your body to get you there. So never expect less and that’s what I’ve seen Nutrition Response Testing stand true to in every single time and in every case I worked with.
DEBRA: Well, tell us what happens if somebody were to come in for their first appointment. What would it look like?
LORI PUSKAR: The first appointment takes in about an hour an hour and a half. There’s a lot of reading and training in getting a full understanding of what was to occur especially if the theory and the idea of muscle testing is new. And we do a full system of analysis based on Nutrition Response Testing. Also some tools to analyze how well you’re doing to start because one of the things we need to establish is baseline of how much work we have to do.
Not only that Nutrition Response Testing answers valuable but we need to what kind of prognosis can we expect. All of that data is gathered on the first visit. Our first visit is actually a two-part visit and what the practitioner would sit for a good 15 minutes to half-hour to an hour depending on the case to review all those materials, data collected and the analysis done.
And the part two you come you are sat down and go over with you all these again to make sure nothing is missed and layout for you this standard of care and this tailor-made program of what you could expect of what we would need of you in order to fulfill your patient roles and also what you could expect of us as a healthcare facility and from the practitioners. We really do not want to leave any stone unturned prior to you saying, “Yes, let’s get started.” We really don’t make sure and establish that we’re a team and we’re going to work on these for a long term.
Basically, it’s the two of us together and we’re going to do what it takes to get you there. That is really what you’re trying to establish that whole initial consultation procedures and what’s the situation and what is it going to really what it takes to handle that.
DEBRA: We also we want to be really clear, this isn’t an overnight fix. It takes some months and sometimes it’s like – I’ve been going this round for like two months and I’m still taking the same things I started with but in different doses. I’ve been going in every week and I get checked out if there are some changes and if I’m taking what I’ve been given. Now I’m going to start every two weeks. So as you go you don’t have to go every week. As you go the price goes down because you’re not going every week. It’s not that much to begin with. It cost a lot less than insurance I tell you that.
LORI PUSKAR: Exactly. We consider this an insurance. We consider that card in your pocket just-in-case-god-forbid insurance. But if we’re talking about true health, it comes from the diet you eat and the nutritional supplement that you’re on. That’s actually what’s going to restore by the real definition of health in any person.
DEBRA: Here’s a new thing that I’ve never seen any place else. Tell us about scars? Why do you check scars?
LORI PUSKAR: The interesting thing about scars come back to this control panel I was talking about. If you take a look at the body of the computer system and much of that computer if it comes out into the rest of the body. It starts obviously in the brain. But all of your nerves basically make out the communication system that goes from the tip of your toes and your fingertip.
Those nerve ending fibers are actually very close to the surface of the skin so when you get a scar prior, those nerve-ending fibers tend not to heal completely after that injury or trauma you received. So you have to get the entire body’s system communications as perfect as possible so if there’s a scar in the way hindering those fibers, we have to handle that specifically as a barrier.
It’s not because you necessarily need a vitamin K or vitamin c or a vitamin D. It’s the fact that the brain cannot communicate down to say, “Hey, we need it or we don’t need it.” It could be just a communication breakdown as opposed to nutritional deficiency.
DEBRA: That’s what is interesting to me that you know all the barriers are and different ways the body can affected that it can stop communication inside the body. It’s that you know and so many different practices don’t even include these kinds of things.
LORI PUSKAR: the goal is personally as practitioner is that I don’t like mysteries, I don’t like guessing, I don’t like doubt. Part of my goal is I wanted to practice as close to perfect as possible with the certainty and the confidence as much as possible. So that when you said, “Can I get you well?? I can actually truthfully and ethically say, “Yes, I can.” Now, that we’ve agreed to that how are we going about it? And Nutrition Response Testing allows us the path that’s going to take us from Point A to Point B.
DEBRA: So basically, what you’re treating with is nutrition, you give everybody a diet and nutritional supplement. There’s no medicines, there’s no drugs, there’s no anything that we associate with healthcare.
LORI PUSKAR: Yes, that’s correct! It’s really a stays natural solution. There are definitely no use of drugs and surgeries of traditional medical model of any kind. Also you’re looking at dietary supplements and nutritional supplementations.
So the whole point beyond this show is any of those barriers so there’s the environmental recommendation and implementations that would need to occur. So it’s not just a matter of dietary and taking the perfect nutritional program, it’s also handling those in your environment that would be poison and toxic by definition and making sure that they are part of the case. So it’s absolutely inherent and valuable and pertinent getting a sick person well.
DEBRA: Yes, yes we agree on that point. It’s just good to have you on to validate. But I’m educated in this field and read a lot and have my own personal experiences and I talk to people. And toxic chemicals really do come to that if you don’t handle them; they’re going to make you sick. Toxic chemicals will accumulate in your body and they’re going to make you sick and that’s the truth today. I’m so happy that you agree with me with background that you have and clinical experiences you encounter on daily basis. So we have less than a minute, so any final thing you’d like to day?
LORI PUSKAR: Yeah I’d like to thank all the listeners. Basically, what I’d like to tell everyone is that don’t give up there’s definitely hope if you have any health situation or medical reason of any kind for any reason. Just keep searching to the right practitioner. Ideally Nutrition Response Team practitioner to get to the true cause….
DEBRA: Thank you so much! You have come to the end of the show. You’re listening to Toxic Free talk radio, I’, Debra Lynn Dadd.
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